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I have linked an article at Foreclosurepedia to this article as I feel one of the biggest issues in the Property Preservation Industry (PPI) is unqualified, knowledge lacking, and unskilled individuals running around assisting in the rock bottom fee structure in the PPI. As many of you know I worked in conjunction with Paul Williams over at Foreclosurepedia to help found the National Property Preservation Guild  (NPPG). When it appeared to me that the NPPG wanted to move the organization into a different dirrection that what I had envisioned (story for another time), I resigned as I felt I could be of better service advocating for the Contractors in a much better manner than the NPPG planned to do.

However prior to this event I worked very hard to develop an Educational Program for the NPPG as my thoughts about the fee structures are this…In order to be able to ask and expect to be paid top dollar you must have a in depth knowledge of the industry, laws in your local municipalities and most of all you need to be compitent in your ability to complete the services that are required in the PPI.

Back in 2011 over on LinkedIN Rob Preston was doing what many of us professionals do, shameless self promotion, he was pushing his education model for the industry. Just having gotten a first hand dose of people scamming the industry folks not in the know sort of speak, I blasted him, blasted him hard. Then I reviewed his material and found myself cleaning the egg off my face. When I started to develop the education program for the National Property Preservation Guild  I immediately thought of my encounter with Rob Preston and wondered if hey, will he even talk to me after the big production I made to attempt to discredit him??? Having nothing to lose I decided to contact Mr. Preston, Here is the resulting interview article I wrote for the NPPG and published on LinkedIN  back in April 12, 2013.

In 2011 we had a tremendous workload and we needed to increase manpower. Doing what comes natural to most business owners when this happens we ran some ads for help. One respondent stood out above all the others…Seems this gal had written a “how to” book on the Property Preservation Industry and just knew she would be a good fit with our organization. Since I only have an administrative role and anyone working for our company is representing someone else I had to find out why if this gal’s company was so good how come she was not receiving work from any of the clients we had in the area as we were overloaded. Well turns out this gal’s company couldn’t pass a QC inspection and they had been released by every national there is….So for some time I was always skeptical of anyone writing books on the industry.
In 2012 when Rob Preston announced the release of his first edition of property Preservation & Mortgage Field Services Training Guide, well naturally I was somewhat apprehensive. However, that did not stop me from blasting Rob for having his hand out for a piece of the rapidly shrinking revenue pie of the Property Preservation Industry. Did I ask Mr. Preston how he gathered his information? Did I ask Mr. Preston where his qualifications to write a book came from? Did I ask anything other than “What makes you so special you think you can sell us your drivel and separate us from our monies”???? Embarrassingly no…
Yesterday Rob Preston was gracious enough to overlook my antics from a year ago and allowed me the privilege of an interview on behalf of the National Property Preservation Guild in regards to his second publication for the Property Preservation Industry.
Rob has been in the involved in the industry on many levels since 1995. He brings a plethora of skills from 16 years of experience, learned knowledge and dedicated work with him to the typewriter. Was Rob satisfied with writing a book? Most people would settle for the success that Rob has had as a first time counterparts, in addition can give you an edge on the lazy employee as you now can respond you didn’t look in the manual? Combine this with the testing element and you have a way to not only provide continuing education for yourself and your company but you also have a vehicle for keeping your employees or subs current with industry information.
We all know things change rapidly in the business world. One of the changes I do see happening in our industry is regulation. Folks it is time we come together. Do yourself a favor and give this publication a look-see. As something tells me you may very well be looking at the future of the industry…
For all those whom may think I’m all knowing in this industry…well Rob invited me to take one the industry tests…89%…I’ll be in the library studying if anyone needs me…author who took this route out of frustration with the industry. Instead Rob believed that if the working class members, the group of people that we have fondly dubbed “Boots on the Ground”, yes those like you and me that work this industry to put food on the table, Rob believed that in order for some of the issues to be resolved that it would have to come from the Boots on the Ground coming together in a concerted effort via education. With that Rob developed testing, with procedures that one would find when taking any sort of test that was proctored for legitimizing certifications. He further went on to assist a national organization with their testing programs for recruiting new contractors. However, the main reason that Rob has gone to the extents he has is because like many of us Rob feels that the industry is lacking consistency. With the manual combined with testing in a continuing education format perhaps some consistency will come to replace today’s complacency.
So now that we’re all warm and fuzzy let’s talk about the 125 page 2013 edition of the Property Preservation & Mortgage Field Service Training Manual. This year’s addition is now a Paperback and has a condensed 75 page pocket reference manual for those of you who may want to have something in your trucks for that forgetful field supervisor you have…In addition the training manual references several links to “How-to” videos, for example in the section for pool covering the links takes you to the manufacturers web site of the pool cover company and you may view their production for their product, another example is in the rekey section you can click the link and you’ll be whisked to Lowes for their presentation of how to change a lock. Throw in some photographs, blue print style illustrations, diagrams and drawings and the “Newbie” is miles ahead of the game compared to 5 years ago. As now the Newbie has a list of required equipment for the industry, a detailed description and step by step instruction to complete services like winterizations, picking locks, etc. I had to ask about including “picking locks” playing on the side of caution, would this be considered a trade secret? Could this be construed as providing instruction for illegal activity? Rob investigated this prior to placing what some would consider “sensitive” information in his publication. Since this is an educational tool…I’m happy to inform you we are not burglars in training!!!!!
So what makes Rob’s book worth a look-see? I like the fact that not only is the product set up that any of your organizations field supervisors can use it and teach from the manual. Plus the condensed 75 page version handy pocket reference for the vehicles gives your company a little bit of an edge over your

 

I believe most know that I feel that the use of the term “Contractors” in the PPI is a misnomer. I base that on the fact I have a slight understanding of the difference between an Independent Contractor and an Employee. Make no mistake about this folks, there is currently a HUGE tax base out here in the PPI that will be looked at as things start to move forward, yes I’m referring to regulation creeping into the PPI. Sorry but I believe it is inevitable and unlike many that wish to place their heads in the sand and pretend that all is warm and fuzzy because regulation is not something they want, we have gotten our company in front of things . One of the ways NPOM  have made the Independent Contractors employees…buy demanding they partake in a specific organizations education model. Understand as an Independent Contractor you can not be forced into something without being given a choice. Demanding you take an organization testing and education is one of the many steps the NPOM have taken to systematically strip the spirit of the Independent Contractor rules and regulations from the industry, I believe the NPOM  disguise this by calling issues “mandatory requirements”. It is funny how small company’s will accept a “mandatory requirement” that raises their overhead with out question, and scream bloody murder when the subject of “regulation” is brought up,  But enough, as that is a story for another time.

I’m not going to get into other education models offered in the industry, well the only other I know of is an overpriced model with the organization NAMFS, which I have reservations about as they wish to certify people and have no qualifications to do so. I also know of another company I believe involves  SIRS, not real sure on pricing but again the big “C” word is used, certification. Not real big on the use of that term as it would indicate you have some sort of degree or your organization has been accredited and acknowledged as a higher learning institution, IMHO.

However in closing I will say this should you need to get in front of the “educationally qualified” buzz that is taking the PPI by storm consider Mr Prestons FuryLearn package. The price will not break the bank and you return on investment will be much safer than playing the stock market…

For more detailed examination of the training and education issues currently going on in the PPI follow the link below.

http://foreclosurepedia.org/rob-preston-mortgage-field-service-training-for-pros/

 

Have a great day everyone…and let’s be safe out there.

DISCLAIMER: MYSELF, OUR COMPANY NOR EMPLOYEES OF OUR COMPANY HAVE RECEIVED ANY COMPENSATION FROM THE FURYLEARN OR ROB PRESTON. 

Mindset of the Property Preservation Industry

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Mindset of the Industry

 

For the past couple of years I have been attempting to make the Boots on the Ground Contractor (BOTG) of the Property Preservation Industry (PPI) understand why they need to join forces  for a common good. Their common good. What I have found is that is much easier said than done!!!

Breakdown of participants years in the PPI
Breakdown of participants years in the PPI

 

One of the biggest fears many contractors have is voicing their opinions or doing something in a manner that the National Preservation Order Mills (NPOM) or Regional Order Mills (ROM), in essence their clients, will hear or find out. Small things like joining an organization perceived to be a threat to the monopolized industry or making statements in public forums. When I ask fellow Contractors about this I constantly hear the “Fear Factor” so I decided to set up some surveys in an anonymous format so members of the PPI could provide some input without fear of reprisal. The pie chart is a graphic illustration of how long the participants of the survey have been involved in the PPI.

What is literally amazing is that 82.2% of the participants feel that organization of the BOTG would benefit them. When pressed a little more specifically and asked; Do you thing the industry would benefit from being unionized only 48% said yes, with 49.3% stating they would join a union if the PPI had one. This came from 88.9% of the participants claiming to be BOTG. Now keep in mind that one of the organizations out there, The National Property Preservation Guild, (NPPG) an organization that claims to be Contractors for Contractors, defines a BOTG Contractor as a contractor that goes out in the field and actually completes services. Interesting that while an overwhelming amount of participants agree that organizing the BOTG would help the industry that only a little over half would join a Union. Perhaps the name Union has a bad connotation and ring to it? Especially when asked; Do you feel that if you belonged to an organization that stood up for Contractors it would affect on your workloads…58.1% said no. On the other hand when asked; Do you feel voicing your opinion about the industry in public would bring adverse results to your business, 56.8% said yes.

While only 75% of the participants responded to the question…If you had the opportunity to implement one policy to improve the PPI what would it be…the overwhelming answers were actually twofold, 1. Standardize the pay scale and 2. Rid the industry of the ROM and companies “subbing” the work. (Something I have been saying for the past three years). While there were a few other suggestions…Get rid of SGP, have a Non Profit Organization go to bat for the Contractors, the main topic was the afore mentioned.

When asked; Do you feel there is an organization in the PPI that truly represents the best interests of the BOTG Contractors…42.7% said no, 37.3% said they don’t know of any organizations representing the BOTG. 80% of the participants feel that there is no adequate representation or know of none.

Currently there are two main organizations out there National Association of Mortgage Field Services or NAMFS and the NPPG. One, NAMFS, claims to represent ALL party’s best interests in the PPI and the later, NPPG, claiming to represent the Contractors. So why haven’t these organizations taken a position on these issues in the industry? Why haven’t they used their resources to conduct surveys and come up with solutions to the convoluted mess called the PPI???? The word gutless comes to mind. However, in the interest of being fair let’s actually examine something here.

The majority of the contractors would eliminate the groups of business that are “subbing” out the work. This creates a very serious dichotomy for both of these organizations. There is absolutely no way they can take a stand against this part of the industry. To do so would be utter insanity to take a position against companies “subbing” work as a business model. You see this would be business suicide for many of the Board of Directors of these organizations. If you look at the members that comprise the Board of Directors you’ll see that their business models are that of ROM, or “subbing” on a smaller scale, what has been identified as Otherwise Unauthorized Order Mills. So the reality throughout the PPI is there is no organization that truly represents the best interests of the Boots on the Ground Contractors.

Where to look for this type of organization or how to develop the solution to this…I have no answer at this time. Except to say that BOTG Contractors need to stop back stabbing each other and start organizing on a local level. The small PPI companies need to start looking to each other as assets and not enemies to each other. The small BOTG guys and gals need to start meeting with each other once a month…hold conference calls with each other once a week…They need to start communicating with each other and quit allowing the NPOM, ROM, and OUOM to stop pitting them against each other with the thought of grandiose streams of fortunes rolling in because they will provide large streams of volume to make that $40 winterization work.

This is part one of a series that I will be writing on this subject. I will place another survey based on the answers to the survey question that was in the survey (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GR8YQ5B). I hope more of you will participate in these surveys. This survey had 75 participants. In addition I have placed surveys to gather information from members of the Real Estate Industry in order to help understand their position on the state of the PPI. Stay tuned as this could become very interesting.

Thanks for tuning in today…have a good week everybody and let’s be safe out there!